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		<title>By: Tagging - more worth than RSS for the &#8220;average&#8221; consumer? &#171; harbour 7</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tagging - more worth than RSS for the &#8220;average&#8221; consumer? &#171; harbour 7]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2007 18:40:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] But photo-tagging and social bookmarking are only part of the story for tagging. Email is potentially a big growth area and hence introduction for the masses to tagging. We now have tagging within GMail (some great tips on this from Steve Rubel), and Taglocity for tagging email in Outlook. We alsoÂ  have the growing use of tags in web design &amp; build strategies, as employed by Guardian Unlimited for the relaunch of Guardian Unlimited Travel - Nik Silver gives a thorough explanation of how tags are employed for this site, but importantly from a user perspective it means improved navigation, easier discovery of related content andÂ  more friendly urls. It seems that once it manages to genuinely and effortlessly aid people&#8217;s digital lives, we may likely see the mainstream internet user take tagging of of content and data increasingly to heart.    &#160; [...] ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] But photo-tagging and social bookmarking are only part of the story for tagging. Email is potentially a big growth area and hence introduction for the masses to tagging. We now have tagging within GMail (some great tips on this from Steve Rubel), and Taglocity for tagging email in Outlook. We alsoÂ  have the growing use of tags in web design &amp; build strategies, as employed by Guardian Unlimited for the relaunch of Guardian Unlimited Travel &#8211; Nik Silver gives a thorough explanation of how tags are employed for this site, but importantly from a user perspective it means improved navigation, easier discovery of related content andÂ  more friendly urls. It seems that once it manages to genuinely and effortlessly aid people&#8217;s digital lives, we may likely see the mainstream internet user take tagging of of content and data increasingly to heart.    &nbsp; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: niksilver.com &#187; Guardian Unlimited is hiring a Development Manager</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[niksilver.com &#187; Guardian Unlimited is hiring a Development Manager]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2006 15:59:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: The Guardian&#8217;s new travel site at SimonWaldman.net</title>
		<link>http://niksilver.com/2006/11/28/a-new-travel-site-and-four-uses-for-tags/#comment-248</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Guardian&#8217;s new travel site at SimonWaldman.net]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 12:26:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] &#8230;is launched today. It&#8217;s not just a clean lick of paint, but a fundamental change in the way that we deliver content. The result of spectacular efforts by a very gifted team&#8230; You can find out more about some of the back end loveliness from Nik Silver&#8217;s blog. [...] ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8230;is launched today. It&#8217;s not just a clean lick of paint, but a fundamental change in the way that we deliver content. The result of spectacular efforts by a very gifted team&#8230; You can find out more about some of the back end loveliness from Nik Silver&#8217;s blog. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Nik</title>
		<link>http://niksilver.com/2006/11/28/a-new-travel-site-and-four-uses-for-tags/#comment-247</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2006 22:55:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the kind words, Bruce.

Regarding the design and development: yes, we do intend to continue this work across the rest of GU. Emily Bell, our Director of Digital Content, &lt;a rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; href=&quot;http://www.editorsweblog.org/news/2006/11/guardian_unlimited_opens_online_travel_s.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;has talked about this briefly&lt;/a&gt; in the trade press.

Regarding tag URLs, we did think very carefully about that very issue and related issues. The scheme you outline does indeed ensure findability -- you can guess a URL and get a page. However the disadvantage is that it dilutes the information architecture. For example, suppose one blog post points to .../tag/croatia+hotels and another points to .../tag/hotels+croatia then in general it&#039;s impossible to know that they actually refer to the same resource. The principle that won out was: one resource, one URL.

The next logical suggestion would be to add redirects -- a redirect would satisfy both camps. But we prefer to exercise some caution with redirects, as you can very quickly end up in confusion.

So in this case simplicity and reliability trumps pliability.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the kind words, Bruce.</p>
<p>Regarding the design and development: yes, we do intend to continue this work across the rest of GU. Emily Bell, our Director of Digital Content, <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.editorsweblog.org/news/2006/11/guardian_unlimited_opens_online_travel_s.php" rel="nofollow">has talked about this briefly</a> in the trade press.</p>
<p>Regarding tag URLs, we did think very carefully about that very issue and related issues. The scheme you outline does indeed ensure findability &#8212; you can guess a URL and get a page. However the disadvantage is that it dilutes the information architecture. For example, suppose one blog post points to &#8230;/tag/croatia+hotels and another points to &#8230;/tag/hotels+croatia then in general it&#8217;s impossible to know that they actually refer to the same resource. The principle that won out was: one resource, one URL.</p>
<p>The next logical suggestion would be to add redirects &#8212; a redirect would satisfy both camps. But we prefer to exercise some caution with redirects, as you can very quickly end up in confusion.</p>
<p>So in this case simplicity and reliability trumps pliability.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce Combe</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bruce Combe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2006 12:22:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nice work. It would be great to see this standard of design/development applied across all of Guardian Unlimited. Just one thing though, with a proper tagging system shouldn&#039;t both of the following URLs work?

http://travel.guardian.co.uk/tag/croatia+hotels

http://travel.guardian.co.uk/tag/hotels+croatia]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice work. It would be great to see this standard of design/development applied across all of Guardian Unlimited. Just one thing though, with a proper tagging system shouldn&#8217;t both of the following URLs work?</p>
<p><a href="http://travel.guardian.co.uk/tag/croatia+hotels" rel="nofollow">http://travel.guardian.co.uk/tag/croatia+hotels</a></p>
<p><a href="http://travel.guardian.co.uk/tag/hotels+croatia" rel="nofollow">http://travel.guardian.co.uk/tag/hotels+croatia</a></p>
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		<title>By: UserX - ×”×‘×œ×•×’ ×©×œ ×¢×™× ×ª ×¢× ×‘×œ ×¢×œ ×¢×™×¦×•×‘ ×—×•×•×™×ª ×”×ž×©×ª×ž×© ×•×¢×™×¦×•×‘ ×ž×ž×©×§ &#187; Blog Archive &#187; ×§×™×©×•</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[UserX - ×”×‘×œ×•×’ ×©×œ ×¢×™× ×ª ×¢× ×‘×œ ×¢×œ ×¢×™×¦×•×‘ ×—×•×•×™×ª ×”×ž×©×ª×ž×© ×•×¢×™×¦×•×‘ ×ž×ž×©×§ &#187; Blog Archive &#187; ×§×™×©×•]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2006 08:50:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: andrewskinner[dot]name &#187; Blog Archive &#187; links for 2006-12-02</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 09:28:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] niksilver.com Â» A new Travel site, and four uses for tags Nice write-up on the just-launched redesign by the siteâ€™s software development manager. (tags: website web2.0 travel guardian tagging tags print)   *&#160;*&#160;*&#160;*   *&#160;*&#160;*&#160;* [...] ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] niksilver.com Â» A new Travel site, and four uses for tags Nice write-up on the just-launched redesign by the siteâ€™s software development manager. (tags: website web2.0 travel guardian tagging tags print)   *&nbsp;*&nbsp;*&nbsp;*   *&nbsp;*&nbsp;*&nbsp;* [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Stabe &#187; links for 2006-12-01</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Martin Stabe &#187; links for 2006-12-01]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Dec 2006 08:25:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] niksilver.com: A new Travel site, and four uses for tags How the Guardian uses tags on its new travel site. (tags: blogs Guardian tags tagging web2.0) [...] ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] niksilver.com: A new Travel site, and four uses for tags How the Guardian uses tags on its new travel site. (tags: blogs Guardian tags tagging web2.0) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Wortfeld &#187; Kofferetiketten</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wortfeld &#187; Kofferetiketten]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2006 23:21:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Wer immer noch glaubt, dass tags &#8211; SchlagwÃ¶rter &#8211; eine bloÃŸe Modeerscheinung seien und nutzergenerierte Inhalte sich nicht mit QualitÃ¤tsjournalismus vertrÃ¼gen, schaue sich das neue travel.guardian.co.uk an. Der Chef der Guardian-Softwareentwickler, Nik Silver, schreibt in seinem Weblog Ã¼ber die Ideen dahinter. Aber schon ein Blick auf die Seite zum Tag Paris zeigt die Kombination: Guardian-Reisetipps plus Guardian-Artikel plus Lesertipps plus Leserfotos plus RSS-Feed plus exzellente WerbemÃ¶glichkeiten. [...] ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Wer immer noch glaubt, dass tags &#8211; SchlagwÃ¶rter &#8211; eine bloÃŸe Modeerscheinung seien und nutzergenerierte Inhalte sich nicht mit QualitÃ¤tsjournalismus vertrÃ¼gen, schaue sich das neue travel.guardian.co.uk an. Der Chef der Guardian-Softwareentwickler, Nik Silver, schreibt in seinem Weblog Ã¼ber die Ideen dahinter. Aber schon ein Blick auf die Seite zum Tag Paris zeigt die Kombination: Guardian-Reisetipps plus Guardian-Artikel plus Lesertipps plus Leserfotos plus RSS-Feed plus exzellente WerbemÃ¶glichkeiten. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: davblog</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Nov 2006 14:23:45 +0000</pubDate>
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The Guardian have introduced a new travel web site and GU development manager, Nik Silver, has written an interesting article......]]></description>
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