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		<title>By: Tiago DÃ³ria Weblog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Guardian com nova home</title>
		<link>http://niksilver.com/2007/05/10/guardian-unlimiteds-new-look-some-background-on-templating/comment-page-1/#comment-21201</link>
		<dc:creator>Tiago DÃ³ria Weblog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Guardian com nova home</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2007 21:30:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Nik</title>
		<link>http://niksilver.com/2007/05/10/guardian-unlimiteds-new-look-some-background-on-templating/comment-page-1/#comment-11234</link>
		<dc:creator>Nik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2007 19:21:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Paul, I&#039;d not seen that. I&#039;ve added it to my bookmark list.

Of course, redundancy is only one part of the problem of organising CSS. I do wish there were more tools to tackle more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Paul, I&#8217;d not seen that. I&#8217;ve added it to my bookmark list.</p>
<p>Of course, redundancy is only one part of the problem of organising CSS. I do wish there were more tools to tackle more.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Mison</title>
		<link>http://niksilver.com/2007/05/10/guardian-unlimiteds-new-look-some-background-on-templating/comment-page-1/#comment-11225</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Mison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2007 12:10:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been wondering about CMSes being more aware of CSS for the last year or so, and I&#039;m glad to see approaches to tackling the problem. (Actually, templating seems to be outside the scope of the CMSes I&#039;ve come across, so it&#039;s a more general problem. Perhaps there&#039;s a space for it in a template-focussed IDE?).

I&#039;m sure you&#039;ve already seen Tom Armitage&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://infovore.org/archives/2007/07/06/the-css-redundancy-checker/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;CSS redundancy checker&lt;/a&gt;, but if not, I thought I&#039;d mention it. Mind you, it seems the include-on-demand approach should mean you don&#039;t have as much need for it as some.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been wondering about CMSes being more aware of CSS for the last year or so, and I&#8217;m glad to see approaches to tackling the problem. (Actually, templating seems to be outside the scope of the CMSes I&#8217;ve come across, so it&#8217;s a more general problem. Perhaps there&#8217;s a space for it in a template-focussed IDE?).</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;ve already seen Tom Armitage&#8217;s <a href="http://infovore.org/archives/2007/07/06/the-css-redundancy-checker/" rel="nofollow">CSS redundancy checker</a>, but if not, I thought I&#8217;d mention it. Mind you, it seems the include-on-demand approach should mean you don&#8217;t have as much need for it as some.</p>
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		<title>By: Nik</title>
		<link>http://niksilver.com/2007/05/10/guardian-unlimiteds-new-look-some-background-on-templating/comment-page-1/#comment-10224</link>
		<dc:creator>Nik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 18:24:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for the kind words, Ben. I&#039;ll get in touch directly outside this environment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the kind words, Ben. I&#8217;ll get in touch directly outside this environment.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://niksilver.com/2007/05/10/guardian-unlimiteds-new-look-some-background-on-templating/comment-page-1/#comment-10210</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 10:54:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Nick â€“ love the blog, V helpful and intersteing. Probably a round about way to get in touch but I wondering if you had any recommendations for recognised Agile training course to send staff on. We are an online comms consultancy dipping our toe into Agile development and I want to send some of the team (PMs / Developers) on a course. All comments welcomed.

Thanks in advance.

Ben</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Nick â€“ love the blog, V helpful and intersteing. Probably a round about way to get in touch but I wondering if you had any recommendations for recognised Agile training course to send staff on. We are an online comms consultancy dipping our toe into Agile development and I want to send some of the team (PMs / Developers) on a course. All comments welcomed.</p>
<p>Thanks in advance.</p>
<p>Ben</p>
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		<title>By: Graham Modest</title>
		<link>http://niksilver.com/2007/05/10/guardian-unlimiteds-new-look-some-background-on-templating/comment-page-1/#comment-10154</link>
		<dc:creator>Graham Modest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 12:39:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The re-design looks great, the rollover text on the images is particularly good..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The re-design looks great, the rollover text on the images is particularly good..</p>
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		<title>By: no sense of place :: links for 2007-05-11</title>
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		<dc:creator>no sense of place :: links for 2007-05-11</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2007 13:11:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] niksilver.com Â» Guardian Unlimitedâ€™s new look: Some background on templating Interesting background stuff on the Guardian redesign. (tags: guardian design css templating webdev cms)   Filed in Del.icio.us on May 11th, 2007. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] niksilver.com Â» Guardian Unlimitedâ€™s new look: Some background on templating Interesting background stuff on the Guardian redesign. (tags: guardian design css templating webdev cms)   Filed in Del.icio.us on May 11th, 2007. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: links for 2007-05-12 &#124; pollas.dk [permanent meta] &#187; Blog Archive</title>
		<link>http://niksilver.com/2007/05/10/guardian-unlimiteds-new-look-some-background-on-templating/comment-page-1/#comment-7299</link>
		<dc:creator>links for 2007-05-12 &#124; pollas.dk [permanent meta] &#187; Blog Archive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2007 06:23:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] niksilver.com ? Guardian Unlimitedâ€™s new look: Some background on templating â€œRefactoring CSS is about making it more manageable, not shorterâ€? (tags: css design guardian webdev redesign)   Tags: No Tags [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Infovore &#187; links for 2007-05-10</title>
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		<dc:creator>Infovore &#187; links for 2007-05-10</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 23:21:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] niksilver.com Â» Guardian Unlimitedâ€™s new look: Some background on templating Some cracking comments about the needs of templating systems, and the development thereof. In particular: â€œRefactoring CSS is about making it more manageable, not shorterâ€? (tags: web design development templating css) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] niksilver.com Â» Guardian Unlimitedâ€™s new look: Some background on templating Some cracking comments about the needs of templating systems, and the development thereof. In particular: â€œRefactoring CSS is about making it more manageable, not shorterâ€? (tags: web design development templating css) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Nik</title>
		<link>http://niksilver.com/2007/05/10/guardian-unlimiteds-new-look-some-background-on-templating/comment-page-1/#comment-7183</link>
		<dc:creator>Nik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 21:16:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Darren. The other key framework on the templating side is Spring, which is used to configure lots of the components you see on the screen. However we plug in our own factories because the configuration of components always needs a consistent pattern. Other than that, Hibernate, as you&#039;d probably have guessed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Darren. The other key framework on the templating side is Spring, which is used to configure lots of the components you see on the screen. However we plug in our own factories because the configuration of components always needs a consistent pattern. Other than that, Hibernate, as you&#8217;d probably have guessed.</p>
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